[srslte-users] Frequency offsets in srsUE

Philip Shaw philip at surewavetechnology.co.uk
Mon Aug 30 12:17:10 UTC 2021


Hi

Thank you for this, so if I set, say, 1mhz offset in srsUE config file, you don't believe if will work?

Many thanks

Philip



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-------- Original message --------
From: Andre Puschmann <andre at srs.io>
Date: 30/08/2021 09:54 (GMT+00:00)
To: Philip Shaw <philip at surewavetechnology.co.uk>, Xavier Arteaga <xavier at srs.io>
Cc: srslte-users at lists.softwareradiosystems.com
Subject: Re: [srslte-users] Frequency offsets in srsUE

Hey,

On 24/8/21 15:20, Philip Shaw wrote:
> I can set an offset using the property in the config file.  I can see
> that the search for a cell is now at this offset frequency  in the
> baseband (at the analogue signal point on the interface between the
> UBX160 and X300)
>
> Will srsUE handle this?

Yes, srsUE will compensate any fractional CFO of up to half the
subcarrier-spacing, i.e. for LTE this is 15khz/2=7.5kHz

Thanks
Andre


>
> Regards
>
> Philip
>
> *From:*Xavier Arteaga <xavier at srs.io>
> *Sent:* 24 August 2021 14:15
> *To:* Philip Shaw <philip at surewavetechnology.co.uk>
> *Cc:* srslte-users at lists.softwareradiosystems.com
> *Subject:* Re: [srslte-users] Frequency offsets in srsUE
>
> Hi Philip,
>
> What about using custom frequencies?
>
> You can set the srsenb and srsue to operate in any frequency
> independently of the EARFCN.
>
> For the UE:
>
>    --rat.eutra.dl_freq arg (=-1)         Downlink Frequency (if
> positive  overrides EARFCN)
>    --rat.eutra.ul_freq arg (=-1)         Uplink Frequency (if positive
> overrides EARFCN)
>
> For the eNb:
>
>    --rf.dl_freq arg (=-1)         Downlink Frequency (if
> positive  overrides EARFCN)
>    --rf.ul_freq arg (=-1)         Uplink Frequency (if positive
> overrides EARFCN)
>
> Regards,
>
> Xavier
>
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 at 15:06, Philip Shaw
> <philip at surewavetechnology.co.uk
> <mailto:philip at surewavetechnology.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Xavier,
>
>     We are adding some analogue hardware that has a lower frequency cut
>     off.  It does not work to DC.
>
>     The idea is to move the Baseband signal away from zero Hz.
>
>     I hope this helps.
>
>     Regards
>
>     Philip
>
>     *From:*Xavier Arteaga <xavier at srs.io <mailto:xavier at srs.io>>
>     *Sent:* 24 August 2021 13:06
>     *To:* Philip Shaw <philip at surewavetechnology.co.uk
>     <mailto:philip at surewavetechnology.co.uk>>
>     *Cc:* srslte-users at lists.softwareradiosystems.com
>     <mailto:srslte-users at lists.softwareradiosystems.com>
>     *Subject:* Re: [srslte-users] Frequency offsets in srsUE
>
>     Hi Philip,
>
>     I guess you are asking how to avoid carrier leakage
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_wave#Carrier_leakage>. If so,
>     this email will answer your question.
>
>     There are a few advanced no documented `device_args` parameters that
>     can do this function.
>
>     You can use the parameter `lo_freq_offset_hz` implemented here
>     <https://github.com/srsran/srsRAN/blob/master/lib/src/phy/rf/rf_uhd_generic.h#L175>.
>     To set the local oscillator frequency out of the band of interest
>     and avoid carrier leakage.
>
>     When tuning the LO with X300, there is a tune request
>     <https://github.com/srsran/srsRAN/blob/master/lib/src/phy/rf/rf_uhd_generic.h#L368>.
>     This provides a target RF frequency and other two frequencies: LO
>     frequency and DDC/DUC intermediate frequency.
>
>     By setting `lo_freq_offset_hz` the LO frequency is moved
>     `lo_freq_offset_hz` Hz from the target frequency while the DSP
>     frequency is set to an auto policy.
>
>     I recommend setting `lo_freq_offset_hz` to equal the sampling rate
>     (i.e. 23.04e6) to make sure it is far enough from the band of
>     interest. If you are working with FDD, make sure TX LO frequency is
>     not in the RX band.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Xavier
>
>     On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 at 13:33, Philip Shaw
>     <philip at surewavetechnology.co.uk
>     <mailto:philip at surewavetechnology.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         Neel said:
>
>         Hello Philip:
>
>         Are you basically asking how to do offset tuning with
>         srsRAN/srsLTE/srsUE?
>
>         I'm not sure whether this is currently supported.  You should be
>         able to
>
>         have srsUE tune to a non-3GPP frequency band (which is basically
>         the effect
>
>         of using offset tuning), but I'm not sure that the srsUE PHY
>         would be able
>
>         to accommodate for that in its processing.
>
>         --Neel Pandeya
>
>         Hi Neel / Paul,
>
>         I have a X300 with a UBX160.  I need to move the analogue BB
>         signal away from DC zero Hz before it enters the X300 for ADC
>         etc.  I can set an offset using the property in the config
>         file.  I can see that the search for a cell is now at this
>         offset frequency (at the analogue signal point on the interface
>         between the UBX160 and X300).  I don’t have a cell to connect to
>         (for testing), so the question is will srsUE connect to a cell
>         using a large offset value?
>
>         A offset of 1Mhz would be perfect for what we are doing.  Will
>         the PHY work?  So, the system knows that the received signal is
>         offset from zero Hz and is able to recover it?
>
>         Thank you.
>
>         Philip
>
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